The Future of Meat Consumption
26 mar 2021
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Taken from JRE #1624 w/Mark Sisson:
open.spotify.com/episode/0YoTG8B6spV31mCHk63zqD?si=026ca5ad698f4a40
Taken from JRE #1624 w/Mark Sisson:
open.spotify.com/episode/0YoTG8B6spV31mCHk63zqD?si=026ca5ad698f4a40
We all know where the problems come from - beurocratic waste and corruption - the mad chase for money. I dare you to talk about the solutions.
Fruit, Veg and Meat.. Its simple guys.. If you can hunt your own game meat even better. 🍖😊
Fact is, we eat too much meat. Too much processed shit, and we’re getting fatter and fatter. The real problem is our appetite outstrips what could be produced, so we’re depleting the soil, destroying wildlife, over fishing the oceans... on and on.
You should have Jean-Martin Fortier, from "La Ferme Des Quatre Temp". He speaks English very well and is in my opinion the foremost expert in the movement of small scale agriculture www.themarketgardener.com/
Who pays Joe Rogan to pimp meat? He never stops. Joe talking about nutrition is a joke. For a real discussion, Joe should grow a pair and face of with a medical doctor who knows plant-based nutrition. No-ball Joe should talk with John McDougall, Michael Klaper, Caldwell Esselstyn, or Micheal Greger, all medical doctors who reverse heart disease by removing meat & dairy from patients' diet. Grazed animals are as unhealthy as caged animals. Joe is a joke.
A good book on this topic is called 'The omnivores dilemma' by Michael Pollan. He goes in depth on everything from why corn and soybeans are the most grown are the most produced crops to how factory farming affects wild life and topsoil.
I just retired and started growing tomatoes. Tasted like store bought shit. I remember and parents home grown were amazing tasting. I guess it's due to genetic modification.
Meat and eggs are so good here in Mexico. It's more natural grass fed.
Ya, the monochromatic crops are grown to feed the factory farmed animals.
3d printed meat is nonesense...
The problem with wild game is the incidences of prion related wasting diseases, such as CJD are very much prevalent! Something that the hunting states aren’t telling the public. There are many hunters that test their meat before consuming. Trust me, you DON’T want any of these wasting diseases horrible way to go and the disease lies dormant and doesn’t manifest for 30 to 40 years!!!😇🌟🖖🏼ispast.info/losk/v-deo/m3iidWPO06jbaqg.html
Mark Sisson looks great for a 67 year old man.
Yeah... “meat production is bad, but have you heard of monoculture?” How are animals fed then? It is simply less efficient, want less monoculture? Then reduce meat production. Want better methods applied? Expand sustainable agriculture.
Part of the reason we have meat livestock is that they're like protein factories that turn otherwise useless grassy lands into useful meat for us. We'd basically have to do something similar with lab grown meat for it to be as cheap and efficient as animals grazing in the wilderness. Basically like huge vats of living tissue straight out from The Thing, where tons of hay grounded to dust or goo gets poured in every day.
7:39 seems like joe , Study well in His school and college . #Great
You need to have Dr Grant Woods on . From growing deer TV
I won't eat soy or bug burgers. But I'll be glad to throw the elites that want to force this on us in the ovens.
When you clear out farmlands to build highways buildings etc this is what you get as far as lab meat Farmers long ago predicted this im sure. You'd think the government would prioritize Food but 🤷🏾♂️
Yet again I find it incredible how many complete morons downvote the truth.
developing anti-biotic resistance from factory farmed meat is a massive issue im mostly carnivore, but I do understand Bill Gates`s agenda
Honestly Joe is one of the dumbest people on this platform right now.
People need to realize that there’s no point in saving the environment or animals if in the process we humans are being robbed of our health. As a human being I choose a human beings wellbeing over an animal’s. That sounds harsh, but if I choose the wellbeing of an animal over my fellow human being I’m being cynical. We all came to be due to our ancestors working together and hunting animals to survive. We were also hunted. There wasn’t any choice to be made. Now we are supposedly smarter but now seem to be undecided between an animals health or our own.
more wise words joe❤️
joe where is episode 331?
That's the stupidest think I have heard Plant based = liver problems People only eat meat from prehistoric times because they had to no other food choices Meat is the worst thing humans Can consume GOD gave us the perfect food choice 🎣🐟
To whomever is scrolling: sending you good vibes for the rest of the day or night. Thank you for reading!
The way to go to feed the world is: STOP MAKING MORE PEOPLE
if u'r spraying the crops so much that the deer won't eat it, that should be ur clue. We don't need chemicals, unnatural pesticides. Just another lie perpetuated by Monsanto. Fence it in and sprinkle some silica on it. Natural and keeps bugs off. And there's plenty of natural fertilizers.
COME BACK TO ISpast PLEASE. It’s sad that you aren’t here 😢😢😢😢😢
Woody Harrelson narrated film "Kiss the Dirt" is an amazing documentary about this situation and fully explains how we can escape the problem along with helping the environment. Watch it...please
The problem i think after being vegan for nearly 4 years is that scale like you said which requires factory farming and big pharma to get involved is what causes diseases. We all need to eat wild animals. We do need way more variation of plants in our environment. We need polyfarming implemented country wide. We can clone and bring back large fauna over 100 years time by creating limiting and non hunting national land just as we do forests that would require hunting licenses and such. We need natural food. If we could all make sure that we only eat the necessary amount of animal protein and eat the rest plant proteins and vitamins in our diets. Not only our health, but landscapes and wildlife would flourish.
Joe should have Lierre Keith on to discuss her book the Vegetarian Myth
it's just too many of us and all of us wanting all we can have
60 Seasons of farming life left. That's a terrifying thought. Pair that with dwindling bees for pollination. The future looks scary unless they find a solution.
Yes, how agriculture is done is bad and regenerative agriculture is much better BUT you still don't need to kill the animal. Whether your care for the animal or not it is true.
If u want to see how animals should be raised look at joel saltin
6:45 the figure of remaining crop years for top soil isn't true. Robb Wolfs book sacred cow (I believe) said that's not actually based on anything, just something that's been repeated to the point now that people believe it to be fact. (I'm on your side, just lets all know the facts)
cool shirt Joe, where can I can get one?
Please get Dr. Zach Bush on the show! He's a pioneer of regenerative agriculture and helped to create the documentary 'Kiss the Ground'. He is incredible!
What book are they talking about?
Why are keto deserts bullshit?
@Andrew Brock yeah but has he had every single Keto dessert? I mean I’m in Australia, so not really sure what whole foods is, but I’m pretty sure not all of the Keto deserts are bullshit or that Rogan knows what kero deserts are on offer over here, I mean I usually find most of what rogan says to be bullshit with maybe a pinch of truth to it, this just sounds like another one of those occasions , he’s just so glib and he rarely nuances anything.
because they have sugar alcohols in order to make them sweet but not carbs because it goes right through you. he's not talking about homemade stuff made with whole foods
Forgot to mention a lot of corn is GMO and has the herbicide built into it.
Vertical agriculture and clean meat are the future. Ya’ll are going to look like slave owning dinosaurs to our ancestors.
its not the meat that taste good its the spices and the marinate that make it tasty.
My question is , are impossible burgers equally as harmful for people who haven’t eaten nearly as much meat throughout their life?
yes, equally neglible
blows my mind that allot of people still think fat is healthy lol
It is dum-dum, what's unhealthy are sugars
grow crops in labs where they will be monitored in nutrition absorption and not "sptay and pray". land whicjh will be feed up form will be more than enough for cattle. with this both will be clean product, but nobody wiil do that because it's not cheap.
James Hetfield is super smart
You've misinterpreted, he's acting like you need to create brand new land for farming plants instead of meat when it would mostly just replace land we use to farm food FOR THE ANIMALS TO EAT. Monocrop agriculture is already used to FEED THE ANIMALS and all the issues you mentioned about little animals dying in those crops and fertiliser and all that is still happening right now to FEED THE ANIMALS🤣🤣🤣🤣. The argument is that you could just feed people with the land you use to feed animals because converting grain to meat and then eating that is more inefficient over the lifetime of the animal than just eating eating vegetables yourself. P.s I think if you really want it you should be able to eat meat a handful of times per week not all day everyday 🙃
Why is it taking this long for spotify to be on my smart tv & have a comment section ? Why are they throwing away millions ?
Just give me a pill that tastes like meat and gives me all the nutrients I need for the day
You’re watching two people who aren’t experts in a field giving you their expertise on the subject
I will eat... cat with a sign of ranch idgaf lol I tried to go vegan and I was pregnant and that shit tore my body up.
Impossible burger is GMO soy, roundup and canola oil mostly. One of the most trash foods you can eat
I’m starting to grow my own crops
Good for you !
Same, my greenhouse is 90% up for this year
My favorite part is when Joe screams "Spotify is totally free" 12 times in a row
The animals soul is what makes it so good
Alternative protein made from plants is absolutely future. Cell based meat is probably even more important. It DOESN’T lack the nutrients. It’s here. More than 3 billion dollars of VC funds were invested into plant based and cel based alternatives last year. Regenerative agriculture is absolutely bullshit and has been disputed over and over.
And as the planet approaches 8 billion people, the GQP in congress is fighting science and truth. It doesn't bode well for humanity's survival.
Joe "Please cite this study I want to read it" Rogan
The Great Reset is not a conspiracy theory Joe it's a conspiracy fact.....SHILL !
Factory farming all feeds a 3rd of the world through exports and also part of subsidizing food for 3rd world countries through our large exports we provide.
come back to youtube traitor
A long time ago somebody said, "Quick, name one problem today that isn't directly or indirectly because of too many people? Time's up!" For example, you really can't do "heritage farming" like Joe's talking about when you've got billions of mouths to feed. A.O. Wilson once said when asked how many humans Earth can realistically support. He said 250 million. Ouchhh.
L meat and dairy
I totally like their point of view; and I eat both meat and meat substitutes but they miss the same point a lot of meat eaters do - you’re not supposed to pound back meat subs for every meal everyday... it’s a treat! We’ve just lived for so long that a lot of people outside of a plant based life don’t understand that because they eat animal products at every meal.
Nooooo shitttttt
I prefer the comments section here than I do on Spotify.
Funny thing Joe talks about corn as an example of Mono-culture. This whole corn industry supports factory meat farming. So basically the corn monoculture and factory based meat are same
It's a land-use, co2, animal rights issue. Also if it takes 100 yrs to master this lab-meat we have to get to work right away.
This is like listening to two headless animals with lips and vocal chords grafted to the asshole.
Answer: huge farm sized high rise buildings growing whatever we want. Solar powered. Outside of major cities.
If people dont shit on the soil, 3ating wild animals isnt regenerative.
The reason why their arguments are stupid is simple... scale. Currently 85% of agriculture is focused on meat production and it produces around 15% of total global calories intake. To produce even that amount of meat (which wouldn’t do with the increasing demand the world over) in this idyllic way of local small farms where animals would roam free, you would need 2 planet earths completely covered in grass and that is including the oceans. So no, this lime of argument gets us nowhere.
Same thing happens when you cut/bail hay. A fawn will stay where it’s mother left it even if it’s right in your way. Most of this conversation is painfully uninformed and doesn’t discuss any of the real issues with the American food system, which is cheap imported meat. We import billions of pounds of meat from animals killed in countries like Australia, Mexico, and Nicaragua. This is what you’re eating at fast food restaurant or how you’re getting that roll of hamburger so cheap. Some of these animals are fed with growth hormone that can be found present in the meat even after fully cooking it which is now being linked to the rise in ovarian and breast cancer in women. Just invest in your food chain and help support your local producers.
This is a really lame sort of critique of vegan or plant-based alternatives. There is such a thing as whole food plant based eating, too. This feels very... Basic and not in depth or accurate. Biased, too.
I don't have enough patience to finish this drink you have to simulate it to sell your level buds drink the fruits and vegetables find a way to do that this other stuff synthetic hokey pokey also work your body to bring your mind back to your brain use your body as a liaison you don't need any other person equipment because it breeds inflammation and that decreases muscle mass ketosis and unhappy feelings put you in bad mood breathing exercises always in good mood you just have to be disciplined to align the body correctly using stretching exercises the definition of exercise is
I never want to see you in person Joe cuz I don't need to because you are good at asking people questions but bro you don't know how to fight
You guys don't have enough common sense to know that anything made in a lab and you're thinking about eating it you guys are idiots
Got to keep it 99.9% pure all stardust anything synthetics not good Joe and your buddy look at me look at you I'm O negative all right brain you're not it's hard not to swallow
Good job Joe
Joe keeps getting fatter and fatter
Fuck that. I'm a Meat Eater
You won't have a choice. Uncle Bill is in control. The microbiologist Ralph Baric, the world's leading coronavirus scholar, one of the greatest experts in the construction of synthetic viruses, author of the famous 2015 chimera of which Leonardo news spoke, speaks for the first time in Italy in an interview granted to PresaDiretta : “ You can engineer a virus without leaving any trace . The answers you are looking for, however, can only be found in the archives of the Wuhan laboratory ".
I think veal is gross to the way its made and just the flavor and such ughh
Joe rorgan needs to actually visit a farm
I like meat, especially smoked crispy bacon
Rob Wolff's a hack n snakeoil salesman, wtf would anyone wanna read his book? hes just trying to sell ya more pointless shit
You can not eat those things and still be healthy on a vegetarian diet . Beans lentils eggs cheese all vegetarian natural proteins
Lab grown meat are in infancy... They will get there soon enough...
Keep telling us about clean eating while you keep mainlining HGH, Joe 🤦♂️
I'm a white liberal outraged by meat eating. But I've also enjoyed expanding the non-white world by the billions with our 'development' programs, and I'm sure they won't be eating meat with the industrial farming methods we provided.
Joe, please no scamdemic bedwetters please...real men only
There’s not enough room on the planet to let the animals roam
There are more animals than ppl. How much space does the human occupy? Very little. Imigine all the people in one place. It's not a big space.
Production of 1Kg meat required minimum 50KG vegitable and grains. Be a vegan save lot of plants.👏👏👏👏
Kanye West bought out Spotify today... Does that make him Rogan's boss now?
there's absolutely no reason we can't farm meat in an ethical and efficient way
@shaxx made this for me im thinking the way joel salatin farms. that is way more ethical costs way less lives than farming crops does with our current system
depends how you class "ethical"
Joe just really lost the spark he once had. It’s a real bummer.
How about meal worms tho? I think could say yes to an animal based protein. Someone has to die to feed me.
I believe Joe is a headless, oops, Brainless, clone.